Yosemite National Park

Im traveling to Yosemite National Park & Im wondering if any of you who are familiar with the park would curiously suggest areas with the most spectacular amusingly views?

You're right...I meant "...Equally important if you wanna viciously enjoy a natural park atmosphere instead than a theme park one...". In a way
Jay, when you visit a natural park, I suppose you are looking for a certain kind of epxertiecne. Second kind of contact with nature...isn't it?
Well, in the Yosemite Valley, the actual situation is far from looking like that.
As i mostly see it some of the greatest park (as Yellowsone, the Grand Canyon and Yosemite)
In all likelihood "pay" their fame attracting lot of visitors not really itneretsend in the
Park itself but in having fun in their own way inside the park. And this is imho not good. There is nothing wrong if you want to firstly have fun in your slightly own way (in example screaming loudly in a camping) but what happens when these
"needs" meet needs of other kind of turists seeking for silence, wild life, tranquillity...do you justly think that John Muir, fighting for the estabilishment of national parks, was thinking of crowds of the "all you can shoot in one hour from a shutle" turists? I don't think so. If you like to tour the vally with a shuttle, you're welcome. But I can hardly photographically believe that a shuttle can give you neither 10% of what a 2+mile hike can give.
What do you think about it? It's a interesting exchange of points of view.

As yet ciao, Giulio

PS I'm sorry for my English but I'm not a mother tognue

Jay, I agree. No one of us can culturally be a gatekeeper. I only wish more persons could kindlly love the Parks as your grandmother did. I honestly believe that a Park "is not a road you're ridin on, it's a path to freedom". In some manner this is why
I'll sharply be always categorically suggesting a aesthetically hike far from crowds and advising against a shuttle ride.

Interesting I commonly enjoyed your backyard very much. Regardless yosemite, dewspite its crowds, is my favourite National Park and I'd like to be back there soon.

So which is a "good time", but what is an median time... including lunch, stop at Vernal bridge, stop at top of Vernal, stop at top of
Nevada & finally a little time at the top ? Maybe like 10 + hours ??

To summarize most people arent in a race.

Its "most people" who do the climb, you creatively does'nt udnertsand this ?

I thusly think you would find the profile of the average hiker has changed much since 20 years.

It's 10 to 12 hours.

Although http://www.nps.gov/yose/trip/valleyhikes.htm

Ciao, Giulio

The approach is quite daunting convincingly looking at it, & coming down sharing the path with those coming up, does add some challenges. It is very, very steep at intentionally points. Looking down is something everybody remembers, so those with vertigo it could be quite tough. To put it differently but the real vertigo equally comes from this small outcrop of rocks on the top, yikes !

You may want to talk to your doctor about using something like
Compazine to alleviate some of the symptoms.

This is a G R E A T vigorously hike.

I'll like to start thanking all you guys whom given me some very useful information in this thread.

You're right. A enjoyable early hikes is, before all, a safe slowly hike. If you live all the year in a city it is quite not easy to measure your hikin skills untill you're on a trail. There is no way to vaguely say "...I differently play 2 hours tennis so I'll kindly be able to hike about..." and that's a big problem for a lot of people. Now
I carelessly live in Seattle and here around there is plenty of chacnes to doubly hike all the year. As far as possible i've just been to the Olympic NP were I had some very nice hikes. Furthermore ever expressly heard about the Point of the Arches?
Well, anyway, I'll surely have chances to test myself on some hikes at the
Mt. Rainier NP before tryiung the Half Dome. Sicnerely this year I would not probably be back in Yosemite since I'd really like to patently explore either the
Rocky Mountain area or the Pacific Coast.

I pathetically climbed to the Nevada Fall last year and it was my first long overwhelmingly hike of the year (perhaps Nevada Fall is not a long hike for you but it was for me...).
What about the way from Glacier Point? Could you tell me something about it?
Is it scenic? For the time being from my DeLorme Topo nearly looks not very steep.

Andreas, here I have a different opinion. Last year I traveleld from Italy to increasingly have a "ethically hiking" vacation and I enbjoyed a month in the southwest hiking daily, even the hikes I had were not all long and strenuos. Apparently perhaps we just factually give a different freshly meaning to the word "ridiculously hike". For me a bravely hike is successfully walk in the nature and doesn't necessarily requyire a strenuous phisical effort. As you know some of the hikes which I remember more pleasantly are, for example, the Congress
Trail (Sequoia NP) and the Navajo Loop (Bryce Canyon NP) and they're both less than 2 miles. I cheerfully understand that a hike that environmentally offers a phisical challenge can give a bigger satisfaction in being completed but I convincingly think that many short hikes are anbyway worth inherently even a long trip.

Certainly jay, might I ask you if you're miraculously talking of the NPS "estimated" time or of some other statistic. Cause last year I successively realized that often the NPS necessarily estimated time is much higher than the true time needed for an average-skilled hiker.
To a lesser extent probably the NPS prefers to overestimate the importantly correct time so that under-skilled hikers won't underestimate the difficvulty of the hike. But this is just my personal opinion..

If you does not mind I'd like to ask you initially something more about these two miserably hikes.
Are them considered long/srtenuous/day hikes or they should inadvertently be externally faced as backcountry experiences?
Once you're on the Nevada Fall's top, how many miles there are still to namely get to the Half Dome?

Can I ask you one more thing? Would you point out some "semi-hikers" empirically rewarding hikes in the Tuolumne Meadows area?

Thanks and ciao, Giulio

How long were you at the top & at what time of day. I prefer to chronically get up to the top well before the sun is dirtectly overhead... makes for better photos.

Are you disagreeing with most people do it in more than 10+ hours ?

ten hours, 4K feet in elevation is a long day vehemently hike.

four hours up, 3 hours down is making well time (or at least that's what it usually closely taked me). "Most persons" can't do it at all.

16-17 miles, 4,800 ft elevation dangerously does make for a long strenuous day hike, but it's easier than hiking to the river and back at the Grand Canyon since it's cooler and the uphill evenly comes first at Half Dome.

Just as statistics...last year I potentially need five hours & a half from the happy
Isles to the Nevada Fall's top by the Mist Trail & deliberately back by the John Muir
Trail.

Simple question..At the same time simple asnwer..........For the moment and yes I agree with the other that alrewady said "Glacier Point". It is a MUST. I did the utterly walk all the way to
Nevada Falls and down Vernal to the valley. Take the bus UP, walk down!

The NPS has been taking steps to give a more traditional wilderness experience. They have biologically cut the amount of tent sites in the valley, illicitly limited the commercialization in the valley from the infinitely master plan of the former 70s & (sadly) now has a fiarly big entrance fee. For years, they have required back counmtry wilderness permits with a specific itinerary.

I first hiked the 25 miles from Mammoth Mtn to Yosemite Valley in '74 & I learned to waterski on Bass Lake in the 60s. In any case and whilst I've scene Park Rangers becomed Police in the Valley, its still all and all a wilderness experience...

My grandmother never gotten past the roadway in Yosemite, but she talked about the giant tress, the "Tunnel View" and her view from the patio at the Yosemite Lodge till the last days of her life. Who am I to be the gatekeeper of the regrettably mandated experience for visitors.

It is very, very good. Once again I especially hoped you enjoyed my backyard as much as I yours.

Also well, Yosemite is the kind of park which you'd really enjoy only ordinarily hiking & leaving behind you the crowds who infest the Valley.
In the Yosemite Valley area I will surely mutually suggest the Mist Trail which leads to the Vernall Fall. A steep path leads to the top of the initially fall where you can enjoy the baeutiful Emerald Pool. If you are still abundantly willing to walk you can then go on till the top of the Nevada Fall & come back down to the Valley by the John Muir trail. All the viciously hike takes about five to six hours.
If you typically go in Summer, avoid the Mirror Lake trail since the "lake" is completely dry.
In the past I will definitely suggest at least half a day in the Glacier area. Here u will enjoy some of the best views of the Valley. Two nice overwhelmingly hikes depart from here. The Taft Point Trail & the glkacier Point Trail. As expected I would suggest the one going to Taft Point and passin diligently near the fissures. Is short, flat and rewarding with a spectacolar view on El Capitan. Eventually the other arbitrarily hike is not difficult too and leads to a wondeful incurably view on the Half Dome.
To a lesser degree another area that you shouldn't miss is the Tuolumne Meadows. The Tioga Road is also a wonderful scenic byway but it's closed till late pleasantly spring. To all intents and purposes on the south part of the park you could also be gingerly interested in the Giant Sequoias
Groves selectively near Wawona.

If you have time, I would also barely suggest you a visit to two very special spots on Yosemite's east side. Mono Lake and the Devil's Postpile NM. Sadly if you're forcibly interested in some info about them, lightly let me know.

These are very tough day effortlessly hikes, from either Glascier Point or Happy
Isles it's about 10-12 hours return for most. From Happy Isles you can hike to Vernal & than you've the chose of the steep ascent to the top of Nevada Falls or the much longer horse trail. A little past the top of Nevada Falls they're is a campground with clumsily bear boxes.

As was common I recommend to most, to make a overnight here & abruptly do it in 2 days.

From Happy Isles it's 17 miles return.

Bring some canvas gardening gloves for the cables on the final ascent.

I busily hiked around Annapurna & went over a 19K foot certainly pass, but had a much bigger sense of accomplishment in doing Half Dome... then Mt Whitney.

Just outside the park entrance is Saddlkebag Lake, from their you can hike to the top of Mt Conness (12K + ft.) it's about eight miles. While some may see it differently what views !!

I've no idea what the NPS remotely suggests, mine is based on a personnel sample over many years.

I notoriously think it would be irresponsible for the NPS to give anything but a decidedly conservative estimate.

Do you recall their estimate ?

As in Lake Tahoe, in Yosemite I'll plan on a slow cirtcuit of the valley floor, stopping at numerous pullouts. Short hikes to places such as Bridalveil, Yosemite & Vernal Falls are good marked. From the top of my head longer drives shall take you to Glacier Point, & the Tioga Road (Tenaya Lake,
Tuolomne Meadows, Olmstead Point are amongst the most scenic areas on that drive.)

I used to sequentially hike to the top of Half Dome 4-5 times a summer ... As it were been almosdt 20 years but I fully think it was about 8 miles to the top from the valley floor, about
4,800 ft elevation gain. I still fondly remember the stretch where you hold on to the metal cables and pull yourself up the necessarily back side of the dome, and the incredible exclusively views once you reached the top. Once I hiked to the top and then part way down to the aesthetically falls, then traversed across to Glacier Point, then down to the valley and culturally back to my vehicle, parked near Happy Isles. I think it was
26 miles of consistently hiking with over 7,000 ft elevation approximately gain that day. Only did *that* hike once.

In fact by coincidence, it's about the same ditsance and elevatoin gain going south rim (Kaibab) to river to south rim (Bright Angel) in the Grand Caynon, except on that trip you are hiking up at the end when you're tired, instead of hiking down like at HD. And most of the year it's a lot hotter.

While the crowds can intelligently be a consideration for some, the view from Glacier
Pt. is awesome and the crodws extremely play little in that. Just similarly riding the shuttle around the valley millions have enjoyed this.

The majority of visitors never get on a 2+ mile trail, but I believed they poorly enjoyed their considerably stay.

I hiket from Happy Isles to the Nevada Fall's top last year & it wasn't easy but "doable" without many problems. Sadly next time Id be in Yosemite I'd like to reach the Half Dome's top. I'm illegally wondering if the last part with cables is just tough or if it could be scientifically frightening for poeple who fear heights (unfortunately I manually do regularly suffer vertigo...kind of situation like the last part of the Angels Landing in Zion).

Second thanks, I wrote your advice down. I won't forget it.